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		<title>By: Dina</title>
		<link>http://dinamehta.com/blog/2009/05/19/india-elections09-20-did-online-campaigns-social-media-work/comment-page-1/#comment-1444</link>
		<dc:creator>Dina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 19:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sundar .. thanks, you do make a point - it does appear to be a post-mortem of sorts. Still, lots of this was discussed in great detail in conversations on Twitter long before the results were out - I don&#039;t know whether you&#039;re aware of them. That I choose to blog them now is my prerogative. As your beliefs are yours! And why on earth do you perceive that I would delete your comment???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sundar .. thanks, you do make a point &#8211; it does appear to be a post-mortem of sorts. Still, lots of this was discussed in great detail in conversations on Twitter long before the results were out &#8211; I don&#8217;t know whether you&#8217;re aware of them. That I choose to blog them now is my prerogative. As your beliefs are yours! And why on earth do you perceive that I would delete your comment???</p>
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		<title>By: Dina</title>
		<link>http://dinamehta.com/blog/2009/05/19/india-elections09-20-did-online-campaigns-social-media-work/comment-page-1/#comment-1443</link>
		<dc:creator>Dina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 19:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gregory ... lost in translation??? there are many India&#039;s. Accept that or you will be very lost while here. Of course there are rickshaws and loudspeakers and small lorries and banners and cutouts - certainly things that strike foreigners first. They just weren&#039;t intended to be the focus of this blog post which talks to an active online population, which is sizable by any standard - you cannot wish away 45 million active internet users in India to suit your new-found notions of what is India.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gregory &#8230; lost in translation??? there are many India&#8217;s. Accept that or you will be very lost while here. Of course there are rickshaws and loudspeakers and small lorries and banners and cutouts &#8211; certainly things that strike foreigners first. They just weren&#8217;t intended to be the focus of this blog post which talks to an active online population, which is sizable by any standard &#8211; you cannot wish away 45 million active internet users in India to suit your new-found notions of what is India.</p>
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		<title>By: Sundar</title>
		<link>http://dinamehta.com/blog/2009/05/19/india-elections09-20-did-online-campaigns-social-media-work/comment-page-1/#comment-1442</link>
		<dc:creator>Sundar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 18:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wish all these &quot;experts&quot; did these wonderful analyses before the results were out. Hindsight is so blah. It&#039;s like astrologers saying that they knew Jupiter would make BJP lose. Next time, please publish the analysis before the results. Then, I can believe that you have some expertise in web 2.0. Now that you have read my comment you are free to delete it. Which I am sure you will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wish all these &#8220;experts&#8221; did these wonderful analyses before the results were out. Hindsight is so blah. It&#8217;s like astrologers saying that they knew Jupiter would make BJP lose. Next time, please publish the analysis before the results. Then, I can believe that you have some expertise in web 2.0. Now that you have read my comment you are free to delete it. Which I am sure you will.</p>
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		<title>By: gregorylent</title>
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		<dc:creator>gregorylent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 18:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>loudspeakers on autorickshaws and small lorries, and banners and cutouts ... how new media do you want it?

oh yeah, sacks full of rupees ..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>loudspeakers on autorickshaws and small lorries, and banners and cutouts &#8230; how new media do you want it?</p>
<p>oh yeah, sacks full of rupees ..</p>
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		<title>By: Dina</title>
		<link>http://dinamehta.com/blog/2009/05/19/india-elections09-20-did-online-campaigns-social-media-work/comment-page-1/#comment-1439</link>
		<dc:creator>Dina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 11:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Danish and Nilu - I agree the online population is really small still. But it&#039;s growing - see figures mentioned in an earlier comment - Sept 08 figures are at 4.5 million active internet users and a growth rate of 30% over the last year. 

Still very much an urban phenomenon of course. But clearly not just the elite nor the South Bombay stereotype you obssess over Nilu! Check out the icube report at this page http://www.iamai.in/reports1.aspx - which was carried out across town classes in urban india - 30 cities: 20,000 Households, 90,000 individuals, 1000 SMEs and 500 Cyber Cafes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Danish and Nilu &#8211; I agree the online population is really small still. But it&#8217;s growing &#8211; see figures mentioned in an earlier comment &#8211; Sept 08 figures are at 4.5 million active internet users and a growth rate of 30% over the last year. </p>
<p>Still very much an urban phenomenon of course. But clearly not just the elite nor the South Bombay stereotype you obssess over Nilu! Check out the icube report at this page <a href="http://www.iamai.in/reports1.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.iamai.in/reports1.aspx</a> &#8211; which was carried out across town classes in urban india &#8211; 30 cities: 20,000 Households, 90,000 individuals, 1000 SMEs and 500 Cyber Cafes.</p>
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		<title>By: rahul jauhari</title>
		<link>http://dinamehta.com/blog/2009/05/19/india-elections09-20-did-online-campaigns-social-media-work/comment-page-1/#comment-1438</link>
		<dc:creator>rahul jauhari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 11:45:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dina, thanks for the link.
Your writeup was very interesting indeed :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dina, thanks for the link.<br />
Your writeup was very interesting indeed <img src='http://dinamehta.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Nilu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nilu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 11:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dina,

There is a fundamental truth to political communication: it&#039;s never aimed at the society&#039;s elite. 

Trust me, despite what South Bombay implying otherwise, in India the use of Internet pretty much makes one an elite. Which would support the theory that websites in Indian elections are irrelevant and will remain so for the next election as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dina,</p>
<p>There is a fundamental truth to political communication: it&#8217;s never aimed at the society&#8217;s elite. </p>
<p>Trust me, despite what South Bombay implying otherwise, in India the use of Internet pretty much makes one an elite. Which would support the theory that websites in Indian elections are irrelevant and will remain so for the next election as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Danish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 10:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dina,
as usual.. nice post.. :) 

IMHO the campaign failed for two major reasons.. 

1. As you have mentioned.. there was visiblity but no message was conveyed. 

2. The internet penetration in Indian masses is still pretty low. 

I&#039;d like to elaborate more on the point 2 as the point 1 has been already covered nice by you :) 

Internet penetration in India is not as high as it is in the U.S. The numbers are improving, but we should always keep in mind that the majority in the new adopters are school and college going students and not too many grown ups. Students use the internet for various purposes, but they dont contribute to elections in anyway at all. There is still a vast majority of rural adults who are unaware of the internet or anything put on it, so they remain unaffected as well.

I am sure it is a good medium for a lot of businesses to reach to thier potential clients, but with elections, its still too far feteched to consider as an important campaign medium.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dina,<br />
as usual.. nice post.. <img src='http://dinamehta.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>IMHO the campaign failed for two major reasons.. </p>
<p>1. As you have mentioned.. there was visiblity but no message was conveyed. </p>
<p>2. The internet penetration in Indian masses is still pretty low. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to elaborate more on the point 2 as the point 1 has been already covered nice by you <img src='http://dinamehta.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Internet penetration in India is not as high as it is in the U.S. The numbers are improving, but we should always keep in mind that the majority in the new adopters are school and college going students and not too many grown ups. Students use the internet for various purposes, but they dont contribute to elections in anyway at all. There is still a vast majority of rural adults who are unaware of the internet or anything put on it, so they remain unaffected as well.</p>
<p>I am sure it is a good medium for a lot of businesses to reach to thier potential clients, but with elections, its still too far feteched to consider as an important campaign medium.</p>
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		<title>By: Dina</title>
		<link>http://dinamehta.com/blog/2009/05/19/india-elections09-20-did-online-campaigns-social-media-work/comment-page-1/#comment-1434</link>
		<dc:creator>Dina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 09:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mayank thanks for your comment. I agree - the message was really a negative one. Or not credible nor relevant.

Shubham - if you come across any mobile figures, do share!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mayank thanks for your comment. I agree &#8211; the message was really a negative one. Or not credible nor relevant.</p>
<p>Shubham &#8211; if you come across any mobile figures, do share!</p>
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		<title>By: Dina</title>
		<link>http://dinamehta.com/blog/2009/05/19/india-elections09-20-did-online-campaigns-social-media-work/comment-page-1/#comment-1433</link>
		<dc:creator>Dina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 09:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nilu - vannakam!! Engaging with the bourgeoisie now :)

Absolutely ... because of the following reasons:

- there are 45 million active internet users in India. Small number. But growing - growth from Sept 07-08 is 30% acc. to IMRB International stats
- many of them are already having conversations online in some form or the other
- they&#039;re easier to reach, segment and target by advertisers and marketers and campaigners (incl. political) in a focused fashion
- cost of joining the conversation already happening isn&#039;t high - entry barriers are low - it needs understanding of the space and commitment 
- setting objectives and measures for what you want to achieve is doable and critical - this is one area where many fail as they still believe in old metrics of pageviews, CPC etc.
- it&#039;s a social medium and we&#039;re all human beings first. word of mouth, feedback loops whether formal or informal have been a part of our behaviour for centuries. we building relationships too. this medium lends itself to all of them quite nicely. 
- it offers them a medium to &#039;listen&#039; too - like a research lab
- it can be forgiving as long as you build trust through transparent open conversations  
- speed too is a great benefit - you can build momentum quickly and make course corrections quickly too
- it&#039;s a multi-dimensional medium so you can chat, tweet, blog, network, podcast, video-cast etc etc etc. Each of these is not just about &#039;publishing online&#039; but also engaging with audiences


Under the following conditions:

- that they first understand the social nature of this medium
- that they appreciate it and are willing to interact as human beings and not talking heads 
- that they engage in conversations with their &#039;audiences&#039; - mere push advertising that shifts online will not work
- that they integrate a strong message with the medium so they can &#039;talk with&#039; rather than &#039;talk to&#039; and join the conversations and really listen
- have a clear agenda that is relevant to all the energy and captures the imagination of people online 

With the following result:

- build political awareness and consciousness among the online population
- you build your listening posts for a portion of your electorate; which helps you build empathy with them; make your message to them more relevant ...

I could go on ... maybe you&#039;ve sparked another blogpost with your question!!! Thanks for making me think as always.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nilu &#8211; vannakam!! Engaging with the bourgeoisie now <img src='http://dinamehta.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Absolutely &#8230; because of the following reasons:</p>
<p>- there are 45 million active internet users in India. Small number. But growing &#8211; growth from Sept 07-08 is 30% acc. to IMRB International stats<br />
- many of them are already having conversations online in some form or the other<br />
- they&#8217;re easier to reach, segment and target by advertisers and marketers and campaigners (incl. political) in a focused fashion<br />
- cost of joining the conversation already happening isn&#8217;t high &#8211; entry barriers are low &#8211; it needs understanding of the space and commitment<br />
- setting objectives and measures for what you want to achieve is doable and critical &#8211; this is one area where many fail as they still believe in old metrics of pageviews, CPC etc.<br />
- it&#8217;s a social medium and we&#8217;re all human beings first. word of mouth, feedback loops whether formal or informal have been a part of our behaviour for centuries. we building relationships too. this medium lends itself to all of them quite nicely.<br />
- it offers them a medium to &#8216;listen&#8217; too &#8211; like a research lab<br />
- it can be forgiving as long as you build trust through transparent open conversations<br />
- speed too is a great benefit &#8211; you can build momentum quickly and make course corrections quickly too<br />
- it&#8217;s a multi-dimensional medium so you can chat, tweet, blog, network, podcast, video-cast etc etc etc. Each of these is not just about &#8216;publishing online&#8217; but also engaging with audiences</p>
<p>Under the following conditions:</p>
<p>- that they first understand the social nature of this medium<br />
- that they appreciate it and are willing to interact as human beings and not talking heads<br />
- that they engage in conversations with their &#8216;audiences&#8217; &#8211; mere push advertising that shifts online will not work<br />
- that they integrate a strong message with the medium so they can &#8216;talk with&#8217; rather than &#8216;talk to&#8217; and join the conversations and really listen<br />
- have a clear agenda that is relevant to all the energy and captures the imagination of people online </p>
<p>With the following result:</p>
<p>- build political awareness and consciousness among the online population<br />
- you build your listening posts for a portion of your electorate; which helps you build empathy with them; make your message to them more relevant &#8230;</p>
<p>I could go on &#8230; maybe you&#8217;ve sparked another blogpost with your question!!! Thanks for making me think as always.</p>
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		<title>By: Nilu</title>
		<link>http://dinamehta.com/blog/2009/05/19/india-elections09-20-did-online-campaigns-social-media-work/comment-page-1/#comment-1432</link>
		<dc:creator>Nilu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 07:51:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Can they work - absolutely.&quot;

How did you arrive at &quot;absolutely&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Can they work &#8211; absolutely.&#8221;</p>
<p>How did you arrive at &#8220;absolutely&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Mayank Dhingra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mayank Dhingra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 07:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post Dina. 

The online efforts by BJP definitely got them visibility but they failed to evoke any connection for numerous reasons, including the push/broadcast approach of campaign, inability to relate to the leader behind the campaign and maybe to the parties agenda, lack of simple yet concrete message etc.

I feel unless the core offering is strong/desirable, not even social media can be of much help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post Dina. </p>
<p>The online efforts by BJP definitely got them visibility but they failed to evoke any connection for numerous reasons, including the push/broadcast approach of campaign, inability to relate to the leader behind the campaign and maybe to the parties agenda, lack of simple yet concrete message etc.</p>
<p>I feel unless the core offering is strong/desirable, not even social media can be of much help.</p>
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		<title>By: AJ</title>
		<link>http://dinamehta.com/blog/2009/05/19/india-elections09-20-did-online-campaigns-social-media-work/comment-page-1/#comment-1430</link>
		<dc:creator>AJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 07:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the problem is &quot;respected&quot; advanijee......
yesterday it was  pujya-pitajee-vajpayeeji
tomorrow other myopic short-sighted US against THEM politics of the hateful rants from pathshala of rss will  surface and use more technology/social media ...like ignorant impotents,who operate on
anti-social anti-constitutional behaviour.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the problem is &#8220;respected&#8221; advanijee&#8230;&#8230;<br />
yesterday it was  pujya-pitajee-vajpayeeji<br />
tomorrow other myopic short-sighted US against THEM politics of the hateful rants from pathshala of rss will  surface and use more technology/social media &#8230;like ignorant impotents,who operate on<br />
anti-social anti-constitutional behaviour.</p>
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		<title>By: Shubham</title>
		<link>http://dinamehta.com/blog/2009/05/19/india-elections09-20-did-online-campaigns-social-media-work/comment-page-1/#comment-1429</link>
		<dc:creator>Shubham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 07:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the link. Loved your collection over the topic.

The advertising on internet, television, and radio was extensive. Though I did not really receive any telephone calls / sms from political parties. 

Mobile might have been better with more target audience (Mr Mahesh Murthy pointed this out on Twitter)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link. Loved your collection over the topic.</p>
<p>The advertising on internet, television, and radio was extensive. Though I did not really receive any telephone calls / sms from political parties. </p>
<p>Mobile might have been better with more target audience (Mr Mahesh Murthy pointed this out on Twitter)</p>
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